Presidents of the Republic could not save games. why the Coalition lost? Whose fault was it? ME-O, parties, former President Bachelet? What are the difficulties of being in opposition after 20 years in power? How to behave the conglomerate with the Government of Piñera? What should you do to center to stay in power? The most influential ideologists of the coalition as discussed in "The Mercury."
are not giving speeches, nor those who cite press conferences or those who have been in the forefront in public opinion over the last twenty years. But the work they have done in the Coalition has been as discreet as influential: the four guests who gathered last Wednesday in "El Mercurio" have nourished and content strategy for the last four governments have been the brains. Today it is the most influential intellectuals of the opposition. Probably those who, from behind, will guide the coalition in this new and complex process.
Ernesto Ottone, Clarisa Hardy, Eugenio Tironi and Sergio Micco from different fractions of the conglomerate. But they feel close or even friends, which warns the view before lunch to talk cheerfully convened at 13:30 hours. Joke, we recommend some texts and comment on current interest with confidence. But to sit at the table, there is fear of the discrepancy. Intersect at many points, but there is no fear to disagree about what happened, is happening and will happen with the Chilean center. Does
peak of the debate? When Tironi said the coalition lost for two reasons: Marco Enríquez-Ominami and because the great leaders of the Coalition did not invest its energy in avoiding degradation of the parties. Immediately
Clarisa Hardy replied: "I will refute the idea of \u200b\u200bEugene that the Coalition lost because the presidents did not make a bet on the games. If you look at the path the government of President Michelle Bachelet realizes that she is the expression of what the public felt that the parties did not express little different. And your choice ended up being supported because it represented the possibility of victory. How to blame a President not to strengthen parties as an expression of what she wants to transform socially? Nobody is called to do the impossible: here there was no possibility that a President would save the parties, which required substantial reforms. "
Ottone:" The problem is more general. The presidents of Chile are heads of state and government and coalition. It's too much paste. Is far too ornate.
Tironi, "But Lagos was, and, indeed, left a splendid election result."
Ottone, "Lagos tried, and all former presidents tried. All presidents tried to influence a more organized coalition, but these power groups within the parties, when presidents want to tidy, saw it as an intervention from outside. I do not think the weight of the blame on the presidents. It is unfair, because it is a phenomenon that has clear responsibilities in leading groups of political parties. "
Micco: "President Bachelet was head of state, head of government and head of the coalition. There is her popularity. It is an enormous political capital, that we all take care of. But it does not seem right to file full responsibility political parties, because all polls show the irrelevance of politics. "
Tironi: "We can not have the prestige of the president is up here and party down there, because that leads to the institutionalization of democracy. So popular presidents have to share a bit ...".
Hardy: "Sorry, but this scale is the problem with parties as an institution in this country, not even the most strenuous efforts of the President ...".
Tironi, "But who does it, if not the political leaders? The leaders are to address complex and difficult ...".
Hardy: "The limits to which they are faced with the presidents and the stakes are so many that if the parties, simultaneously, they do not address weaknesses have, put on the shoulders of the leaders a daunting task, in my opinion, unapproachable ".
Ottone:" Presidents of the Republic made efforts
Tironi ...". "I know, Ernesto, but we experiences of presidents past who have put their prestige and reputation with the public, to push through very difficult things, and against the establishment, against the opposition and often against their own coalition, and they succeeded. Our great panzers, in terms of prestige and popularity, not broken spears. The government distanced itself from the party because considered a nuisance, made arrangements with a group of parliamentarians to get some laws, the intellectuals have left the government, academia or companies, because they were also tired of the games. And became parties like the silly boy home, but with the ability to choose the presidential candidate. And then choose evil, we lost, and now all we blame only themselves. "
Ottone:" In the work of the Coalition, which had many achievements, there was a sharp weakness in the relationship between government and political parties. This weakness, in time, became a very negative for the continuation of the Coalition. And that was punished by the public. Today, this problem must be corrected, so we focus on the renewal of the party, because she is the one that has to generate legitimate leaders compete openly and likely to present a candidate alternative to the right and to succeed. "
All: "Completely agree".
Tironi, "The reason we lost? Marco Enríquez-Ominami y. .."
Micco: "When political parties have twenty years in government there are two phenomena. First, the institutionalization and bureaucratization of power, to lose contact with civil society. And second, called collective incentives, the country and the good are commonly replaced by selective incentives: status, power and money, and that's what happened to us. Therefore, the first challenge of the democratic parties is to disassociate the State and his reunion with civil society and with this size most epic of the great political projects. "
Ottone: "If the Coalition lost was not because the project has been exhausted: the administration of Michelle Bachelet ended with a high support, and if we were defeated in the elections was the failure of the governments of the Concertación, but by the mistakes of the conglomerate . That's a bitter feeling, frustrating for members of the Coalition. The problem was within the coalition and partisan political practices that were far from society. "
Hardy: 'The world concertacionista, civil organizations, which go beyond the classical institutions of the parties, and I will not be liable to anyone in particular, but there was a stiffness part of communities that did not connect with that energy, capacity and vitality. "
Tironi," I'm going to be provocative. The reason why we lost the elections called Marco Enríquez-Ominami. ME-O emerged into public life in the Coalition's primary, which was reached by the bureaucratization of the party leaders that privileged their own interests above the common interest. And the parties reached that level of degradation because the great leaders that the coalition had not invested or put their leadership role in this task. Is the President Bachelet, is the President Lagos. Have less responsibility, but also some, President Frei, and allow me excepted to President Aylwin, who was even able to assume the presidency of his party at a time when he was lying on the ground. I've done. "
Hardy:" We do not know how to be democratic opposition "
Tironi," I have seen the Coalition happy: at last doing something that would have liked to do for some time and had repressed by that sense of responsibility to be part of the Government. There was a sort of enclosed animal, which was to be able to be critical, to spend the permitted limit. In these thirty days have produced a sort of reunion with a deep ethos is rather rebellious. "
Hardy: "We are going through a difficult time, we do not know how is the coalition. It took us establish ourselves as opposed to dictatorship, and we can not be an opposition in a democracy. Not just for the change of government, but by the difficulty of formed after a disaster of the magnitude of the earthquake. Since we have a major task, reduces the urgency of what should have been substantive discussions. "
Micco: "The fear that many had was that after the defeat came the diaspora, and so far has not happened. The debate in the party's renewal of faces, styles, but I have not heard anyone say, so far , which must be broken with the Coalition. From this point of view, I am extremely happy as center-left in these first thirty days. "
Ottone," I do not share the idea that there is a center, self-existent, with very clear boundaries, and second, a left . These twenty years have been very powerful, and has set up a center-left continuum in which people recognize. This prevented the diaspora, which, if not have that strength it would have been the most logical. Finally, the important thing is the center as a whole, because many chickens do not make an eagle. "
Tironi," But the coalition has had two grants to hold together. First, Piñera Government, which has nothing to do with culture or tradition of the center. And second, to ME-O ".
Ottone," God hears you. "
Micco:" We present a single candidate "Ottone
:" There must be a profound renewal in center field. You must generate opposition proposals, governance, a force capable of reaching the Government, and that this be done in a legitimate competition: I'm about to change the law on political parties for their internal elections are open. That all citizens can vote, unless they militate in another community. "
Hardy:" It is urgent to change the law of parties, electoral system, calling for reforms to the popular initiative law that allows citizens have interference in public affairs. "
Micco:" Program, and coalition leadership. In the agenda item, a lot of conversation among intellectuals, social leaders, academics and civil society to build a new proposal. In the coalition, we must affirm our common desire to continue working together. And in the leadership, I am satisfied now that say only two things: that we will present a single candidate, and second, we set now open primary, compulsory and simultaneous ".
Tironi:" The current government can succeed and hit a very important fiber population. It is the application in the state of the business logic created from the success of the last 25 years. They post Chicago Boys. Does not represent the denationalization, but the privatization of the state, and eye, a large percentage voted for it. If the attitude of the Coalition is skepticism about Piñera, is the antirrenovación, and we may be looking at the navel. The renewal has to be important in the side of the coalition, in terms of leadership, styles, forms of organization, democratization, must exceed all bounds of what is open to anything ever. "
Ottone: "Our success is the misfortune of Piñera" Ottone
"Piñera's candidacy was able to unite the right, as without a program, but to do better management. Then came the earthquake, which generated a program. The Coalition also must be built as opposed to the world of reconstruction and is a very strong effort, because it must maintain its reputation as the government in the future, not abandoning the concept of governance with a populist management, small, petty, irresponsible. Our success should not be based on the misfortune of Piñera. We have to monitor, make alternative proposals, because we have another idea of \u200b\u200bthe reconstruction. "
Hardy: "The coalition agreement was not a pure election, and now have to rethink how to consolidate and renovate the center, in the midst of a catastrophe, is a pure complication. Our problem was political, and a fifth would be a government qualitative change with respect to the foregoing, precisely because he had reached this turning point. And now, how are you going to afford to make a substantive discussion on major policy and institutional reforms that this country needs in the midst of disaster? It something that will require most of the boldness of the Coalition. "
Tironi: "The coalition will be easy to be opposition and problems are being solved alone. First, the idea of \u200b\u200brebuilding is something that is very present in the world of the center. Two, because there is the problem I had right-wing opposition, which was tied for interest. And three, because the contrast between what the current government and the coalition so clear and so obvious, they are no longer necessary programmatic discussions on the political project ".
Micco:" We have four tasks. We monitor compliance with the promises of government. Also, compliance with the Constitution and laws, because it is a real risk of an extreme concentration of power in Chile. Rebuilding a country with an earthquake, where they will have to run and accelerate thousands and millions of dollars, is a hotbed of corruption. We represent the social and political ideas that will not be represented by public policies and projects Sebastián Piñera ".
Tironi," Only by Jaime Ravinet.
Micco: "I'm going to leave cause why . There was a political attempt to damage the Coalition, which ended in disaster. The fourth point is to be kept in the shadow cabinet, that is, a team of alternative government, ideas, programs and projects, so that the Coalition, when he returns to power, not to mind what happened to the right. "
Ottone:" I would add one point. The coalition has duties of vigilance against attempts by conservative revolution of the present government and also face the enormous task that made the Coalition to generate a healthy relationship between civil authorities and armed forces. "
Definitions:" If today were
presidential election, who would be their candidate?
Ottone, "Carolina Tohá"
Tironi, "Carolina Tohá.
Hardy:" Today, Michelle Bachelet, which does not mean at all that is thinking about the candidacy of 2014.
Micco: "I have candidate. "
Rossi:" It's premature, but now the person with the best option is President Bachelet.
Muñoz: "Michelle Bachelet".
Gomez: "Someone who represents a profound change not no, not the usual suspects. "
Latorre:" Clearly, today I have no candidate. "
" In short, the Government set
Piñera:
Ottone: "There is consensus, even among his supporters, that did not start well. "
Tironi," Piñera ".
Hardy:" Right. "
Micco:" Too confused to private interests with the public.
Rossi: "The new form of government, rule by decree."
Muñoz: "Improvisation."
Gómez: "Confused."
Latorre, "All media, despite their ads during the past year, very impromptu installation of your government."
-Bet: How many presidential terms
right will remain in La Moneda
?
Ottone: "I hope that one."
Tironi, "One."
Hardy: "If I have to judge from this beginning, and I must confess that it is a very short and stressful start one. But it is unfair, because it very well could change Over the next time. "
Micco:" If we make the sticks well, a single period. Four years. "
Rossi:" One. "
Muñoz:" I hope that just one. "
Gomez:" I hope that one. "
Latorre:" They themselves would conclude that a period is enough. "
- What was the best government
Concertación?
Ottone:" The 20 years of successful coalition is a continuum. And if you ask me what was nearest me, the answer is more obvious in my case, that of Ricardo Lagos.
Tironi, "I can not answer that. "
Hardy:" There were four good governance, but there was a turning point in Lagos and Bachelet deepening with. "
Micco:" The founding. The Don Patricio Aylwin.
Rossi: "Everyone has had its lights and gray areas."
Muñoz: "The Lagos and Bachelet.
Gómez:" Each had its time. "
Latorre: "Everyone has a stamp".
- The coalition must make room for the wayward to come back?
Ottone: "It is not a problem to be solved by the coalition, if not themselves, if can reconnect with the ideas we have proposed. "
Tironi, "Yes, you should do it."
Hardy: "You must return the founding actors of the spirit of the center-left Concertación, and I do not mean discolaje."
Micco: "Anyone who is willing to participate in our discussions and deliberations free and democratic and to accept its results, is entitled to be in the Coalition."
Rossi: "Yes, contributions are not left over."
Muñoz: "Coordination has to define a policy of broad partnership with all sectors of center and left the country."
Gomez: "I do not know if the rogue, because they produced a rupture, but have to make room for those who have differing views within the coalition or outside the cluster.
Latorre: "While associating their work only to personal projects, not worth insisting on being close to them."
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